{"id":316,"date":"2013-05-15T10:15:00","date_gmt":"2013-05-15T15:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/genealogy.julietarr.com\/blog\/family-history-through-the-alphabet-queries\/"},"modified":"2020-03-18T21:56:56","modified_gmt":"2020-03-19T02:56:56","slug":"family-history-through-the-alphabet-queries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/genealogy.julietarr.com\/blog\/family-history-through-the-alphabet-queries\/","title":{"rendered":"Family History Through the Alphabet \u2013 Queries"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" title=\"Family-History-Through-the-Alphabet\" src=\"http:\/\/lh5.ggpht.com\/--wo2HgQe2DA\/UZMiliLH2RI\/AAAAAAAAIqw\/6bKyqXYatBY\/Family-History-Through-the-Alphabet4.jpg?imgmax=800\" alt=\"Family-History-Through-the-Alphabet\" width=\"304\" height=\"200\" border=\"0\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>For 26 weeks I will take you on a family history journey through the alphabet, one letter at a time.\u00a0 I have decided that each post will be educational in nature, focusing on topics related to resources, methodology, tools, etc.\u00a0 Although the challenge is complete, there are still some people who are finishing up and Alona, the host, is encouraging others to participate anyway.\u00a0 Additional information on the challenge, can be found at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gouldgenealogy.com\/2012\/05\/take-the-family-history-through-the-alphabet-challenge\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Take the \u2018Family History Through the Alphabet\u2019 Challenge<\/a>.\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"q\" src=\"http:\/\/lh6.ggpht.com\/-ddkZVXiO-Y4\/UZMimdEpVnI\/AAAAAAAAIq0\/A79ZfH5zYzc\/q3.jpg?imgmax=800\" alt=\"q\" width=\"75\" height=\"74\" align=\"right\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Last month I posted about <a title=\"Family History Through the Alphabet \u2013 Message Boards &amp; Mailing Lists\" href=\"http:\/\/genealogy.julietarr.com\/blog\/family-history-through-the-alphabet-message-boards-mailing-lists\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">message boards and mailing lists<\/a>.\u00a0 Now that we\u2019ve gotten to the letter Q, it\u2019s time to talk about using those tools by developing effective queries.<\/p>\n<p>Since message boards and mailing lists offer the opportunity to post a good amount of information, it\u2019s much easier to craft an effective query in these mediums than in a publication where queries are often limited due to space restrictions.\u00a0 In other words, TAKE ADVANTAGE of this opportunity and offer as much detail as possible in order to ensure your query is read and hopefully you\u2019ll get some helpful responses.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>The Query<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I hate to say it, but there are some really terrible queries out there.\u00a0 How do you respond to something like the following, posted to the Smith surname board on Ancestry?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Title:\u00a0 John Smith<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Looking for John Smith died between 1880 and 1900, probably in Morgan County, Illinois.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">*Okay, this is factitious and may be a little extreme, but I have seen queries of this broad and undefined nature before.<\/p>\n<p>Chances are, you might not respond; heck, you may not even read the query since the title gives no indication of place, time period, or anything other than a very common name.\u00a0 The query is not any better than the title.\u00a0 Sure it gives a time frame and a place, but do you know how many John Smith\u2019s died in Morgan county between 1880 and 1900?\u00a0 (At least four.)<\/p>\n<p>Not only that, but when I see the range 1880-1900, I think, \u201cdestroyed 1890 census\u201d and \u201c20-year gap.\u201d\u00a0 Did John Smith really die, or did the researcher simply lose track of him in that 20-year span and jump to a premature conclusion?\u00a0 Who knows.\u00a0 There just isn\u2019t enough information in the query to work with.<\/p>\n<p>So how do you craft an effective query when you don\u2019t know much about the person your are inquiring about?\u00a0 Good question.\u00a0 In my opinion, provide as much information as you can about the person in question as well as those you DO know about, like a spouse, parent, sibling, or child.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s an example.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know much about my third great-grandmother, Mary Ryan, but I do know a little bit about her children, which may help to identify her among the many Irish Mary Ryans out there.\u00a0 The following is what I would post:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Title:\u00a0 Mary RYAN Millett (County Kilkenny, Ireland; b. abt. 1842, d. 1912)<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Trying to learn more about Mary RYAN, born about 1842 and died in County Kilkenny, Ireland in 1912.\u00a0 I\u2019m particularly interested in finding out when and where she was born, as well as who her parents and siblings are.\u00a0 Here\u2019s what I know about Mary so far:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><em>She married John MILLETT on 20 February 1860 in County Kilkenny. <\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Mary and John were enumerated in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, residing in Stroan, Kilfane Parish, County Kilkenny .<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Mary and John had at least seven children as follows:<\/em>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Margareth (1863-1945; removed to the United States and eventually settled in Aurora, Kane, Illinois; married Thomas CAHILL, also from County Kilkenny)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Michael (1865-??; living in New York in 1945)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Mary (1867-??)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Robert (1872-??; living with parents in County Kilkenny in 1901 and 1911)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Ellen (1874-??; married a ROBERTSON; living in Boston, Massachusetts in 1945)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Anne (1878-??; may have died in 1902; living with parents in County Kilkenny in 1901)<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Catherine (1882-??; married John POWERS; living in County Kilkenny in 1945)<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>For additional details about the Ryan\/Millett family, you can refer to my blog post Surname Saturday \u2013 Ryan (County Kilkenny) at http:\/\/genblogjulie.blogspot.com\/2013\/05\/surname-saturday-ryan-county-kilkenny.html.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Additional info on Mary\u2019s children would also be much appreciated!<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Willing to share information about Mary\u2019s daughter Margareth.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>See how I used what I knew about both Mary <em>and<\/em> her children?\u00a0 If I simply stated only what I knew about Mary herself, it wouldn&#8217;t have been much to go off.\u00a0 The post is still relatively short, but it gives enough relevant information to provide a good picture of the family I am looking for.\u00a0 Additionally, providing the information about her children shows where my gaps are that perhaps someone can fill in.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019ll also notice that I stated a purpose\u2014what I was hoping to learn about Mary.\u00a0 While everything under the sun would be great, first and foremost, I specifically want to know when\/where born and who her parents\/siblings are.\u00a0 And, secondarily, if anyone has additional information on Mary\u2019s children, I\u2019d be interested in filling those gaps as well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Titles \/ Subject Lines<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Titles should be specific to the person you are looking for.\u00a0 A name and some other identifier(s), such as location(s) or date(s) will help people determine if they need to read your query.\u00a0 We are all stretched for time and when we follow message boards or receive emails from mailing lists, we want to be able to go through them quickly and determine if we recognize something that we can help with.\u00a0 In the John Smith example I used earlier, that message would probably be skipped by many.\u00a0 If, however, it said \u201cJohn Smith, b. 1808 in New London, Connecticut\u201d or \u201cJohn Smith, son of Josiah, b. 1808 in Connecticut\u201d that might ring a bell with someone and they would proceed to open the message and see what the query is and if they are able to assist.\u00a0 Of course the query itself would have to be crafted well too! And, be sure to include both the maiden and married name of females.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Additional Tips<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Following are a few additional ideas to consider when using message boards and mailing lists and crafting your query.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Take a look at various message boards for inspiration.\u00a0 Just by looking at titles\/subjects and the queries themselves, you can get an idea of what works and what doesn\u2019t.<\/li>\n<li>Please, please, please, write your query as if you were writing a business letter or email.\u00a0 Use proper grammar, capitalization, and punctuation, etc.\u00a0 It is so frustrating to read a huge run-on sentence with no punctuation, misspelled words, etc.\u00a0 If you want to be taken seriously, please follow this advice!<\/li>\n<li>If you have a tree online, share a link direct to the person you are inquiring about so that others can see any additional information you may have as well as the family structure.\u00a0 Alternatively, if you have a detailed blog post, research article, biographical sketch, or narrative available online about the person and\/or other family member(s) mentioned in the query, provide a link to those as well (you\u2019ll notice I did this in my example).<\/li>\n<li>Post to multiple message board and mailing list providers.\u00a0 And don\u2019t forget to post to both the surname (including alternate spellings) and locality boards.\u00a0 For instance, I may choose to post my Mary Ryan query on Ancestry\u2019s message board, under both the <a href=\"http:\/\/boards.ancestry.com\/surnames.ryan\/mb.ashx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ryan surname<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/boards.ancestry.com\/localities.britisles.ireland.kik.general\/mb.ashx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">County Kilkenny<\/a> boards, as well as the <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com\/index\/surname\/r\/ryan.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ryan surname<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com\/index\/intl\/IRL\/KILKENNY.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">County Kilkenny<\/a> mailing lists at RootsWeb, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/genforum.genealogy.com\/ryan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ryan surname<\/a> board at GenForum.\u00a0 I\u2019d even flip the query to focus on Mary\u2019s husband John, and post to the Millett, Millet, Milott, Mylott, etc. surname boards through the various providers.<\/li>\n<li>When you learn more about a person you\u2019ve previously posted a query about, add a \u201creply\u201d to the original message with the new information.<\/li>\n<li>Be sure to thank anyone who helps you!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>A Final Thought<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Granted, message boards can be used for other things besides looking for a specific individual or family.\u00a0 You may have a question about records in a particular location (e.g., what\u2019s available, where a certain record set it located, what sources do people recommend, etc.).\u00a0 You could have questions about the history of or an event that took place in a specific location.\u00a0 You might hope to find someone willing to do a lookup for you, or even inquire about genealogists for hire in a place that you are unable to travel to.\u00a0 The same \u201crules\u201d for titles and queries apply.\u00a0 Be specific and provide enough information so that people can actually help you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For 26 weeks I will take you on a family history journey through the alphabet, one letter at a time.\u00a0 I have decided that each post will be educational in nature, focusing on topics related to resources, methodology, tools, etc.\u00a0 Although the challenge is complete, 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